In this conversation, Eva Chen MNZM reflects on her journey, shaped by family values and quiet but powerful leadership. She shares how challenging authority can be done with grace, and how systems—not communities—often create the biggest barriers. From misaligned translations to the myth of “hard-to-reach” groups, Eva speaks honestly about the gaps she’s witnessed.

She also challenges the stereotype of underqualified Asians, naming how cultural pressures and systemic bias contribute to underemployment. Through it all, Eva stays grounded in service. For her, true leadership is about lifting others up—not seeking the spotlight. One of her proudest moments? Seeing her children helped by strangers she once supported herself.