In this deeply moving and powerful conversation, I sit down with Kerri Butler — founder of Take Notice, mental health advocate, and lived experience leader — to explore a journey shaped by resilience, whakapapa, injustice, healing, and the courage to keep fighting for change.

Kerri shares her personal experiences navigating the mental health system, the profound impact of her beloved nana’s journey through institutional care, and how witnessing systemic harm ignited a lifelong commitment to advocacy and transformation. Together, we discuss Māori wellbeing, lived experience leadership, rangatiratanga, intergenerational trauma, compulsory treatment orders, restraint and seclusion, and what true healing and partnership in mental health care could look like.